GREAT IDEA!

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GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:47 am

Hello Everyone,

I know I have not been active as of late, but I have a darn good idea.

Y'all know when I was attempting to mod that beret, and it worked?


I have a great idea this time, a uniform mod.


After watching a documentary on the British Free Corps, a Nazi organization for British POW's, I thought why not take the Gray German Officers uniform featured in HD2 and HD2 SS, and make it into a British Free Corps uniform?

Darn good idea, I think and for those whom like to cheat a little in HD2, you could have your mens uniforms changed at the start of the mission, and have them go into wherever as British Free Corps men.


Good idea? Thoughts?

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Unread post by Jason » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:24 am

Hrmmm, well, can't say I would want to use such a uniform even in a game but that's just me!

There are plently of other uniforms not done or done correctly thup01
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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:43 pm

Jason wrote: Hrmmm, well, can't say I would want to use such a uniform even in a game but that's just me!

There are plently of other uniforms not done or done correctly thup01
Good point, the demand may not be very high on a British Free Corps uniform for HD2,

however, just think. The soldiers in HD2 that are played are British in origin, right?

Example, I have been known to change uniforms right at the start of the Trebessky mission. If you think about it, it is a bit more realistic in a way. I have my men walk in without being exposed too much to the enemy and find Trebessky. Then, they fight thier way out.

Or, the third mission into the storyline. Having one guy enter the underground base. Why not make him a British Free Corps officer?

Or, even this. Changing the uniform of the one or two of the enemy to British Free Corp, however, if there are enemy wearing the uniform by default in the mission, that change is already done. The only drawback to this mod is the Germans themselves may appear in British Free Corps uniform, if one of theirs wears the Gray Officers uniform.

For those whom do not know which uniform I am proposing to modify, it is the one that the German officer wears when you escort him to the Villa.

The British Free Corps proposed uniform could be good for stealth missions, where the person likes to bend the plot a little, or even in Multiplayer, if such a mod would work in Multiplayer, having Brits fight British Free Corp members.


Now, I just have a slight modding question. The graphic files, texture files, which make the uniforms in HD2, are they one file for the top part and pants, or are they two separate files? Are the boots separate files?

I already know the headdresses are, but I am not interested in modding those this time around.

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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by -ViTaMiHnM203- » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:40 am

HD2fan wrote: Example, I have been known to change uniforms right at the start of the Trebessky mission. If you think about it, it is a bit more realistic in a way. I have my men walk in without being exposed too much to the enemy and find Trebessky. Then, they fight thier way out.
If you mean the BFC uniform being more realistic, no. There were not many in the BFC, little known unit, why is a lone member or a few "lone" members of the BFC walking around? This is more suspicious, than just being in a uniform of the unit you are infiltrating and pretending to be German.
HD2fan wrote: Or, the third mission into the storyline. Having one guy enter the underground base. Why not make him a British Free Corps officer?
Well, the BFC didn't even exist at the time. They never had British officers that they could have had one in the middle of no where anyway.
HD2fan wrote: The only drawback to this mod is the Germans themselves may appear in British Free Corps uniform, if one of theirs wears the Gray Officers uniform.
Actually, there are many drawbacks, the first that comes to mind is that it detracts from realism.
HD2fan wrote: The British Free Corps proposed uniform could be good for stealth missions, where the person likes to bend the plot a little, or even in Multiplayer, if such a mod would work in Multiplayer, having Brits fight British Free Corp members.
You mean bend the plot a lot... Brits fighting the BFC? No member of the unit was aloud to engage British forces. These were not crazy traitors, their allegiance was to the British crown.
HD2fan wrote: After watching a documentary on the British Free Corps, a Nazi organization for British POW's, I thought why not take the Gray German Officers uniform featured in HD2 and HD2 SS, and make it into a British Free Corps uniform?
Did you actually watch the show or just glance at it?
HD2fan wrote: I have a great idea this time, a uniform mod.
I believe this is a "TERRIBLE IDEA!"...
HD2fan wrote: Now, I just have a slight modding question. The graphic files, texture files, which make the uniforms in HD2, are they one file for the top part and pants, or are they two separate files? Are the boots separate files?
You really can't tell?
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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:45 am

-ViTaMiHnM203- wrote:
HD2fan wrote: Example, I have been known to change uniforms right at the start of the Trebessky mission. If you think about it, it is a bit more realistic in a way. I have my men walk in without being exposed too much to the enemy and find Trebessky. Then, they fight thier way out.
If you mean the BFC uniform being more realistic, no. There were not many in the BFC, little known unit, why is a lone member or a few "lone" members of the BFC walking around? This is more suspicious, than just being in a uniform of the unit you are infiltrating and pretending to be German.
HD2fan wrote: Or, the third mission into the storyline. Having one guy enter the underground base. Why not make him a British Free Corps officer?
Well, the BFC didn't even exist at the time. They never had British officers that they could have had one in the middle of no where anyway.
HD2fan wrote: The only drawback to this mod is the Germans themselves may appear in British Free Corps uniform, if one of theirs wears the Gray Officers uniform.
Actually, there are many drawbacks, the first that comes to mind is that it detracts from realism.
HD2fan wrote: The British Free Corps proposed uniform could be good for stealth missions, where the person likes to bend the plot a little, or even in Multiplayer, if such a mod would work in Multiplayer, having Brits fight British Free Corp members.
You mean bend the plot a lot... Brits fighting the BFC? No member of the unit was aloud to engage British forces. These were not crazy traitors, their allegiance was to the British crown.
HD2fan wrote: After watching a documentary on the British Free Corps, a Nazi organization for British POW's, I thought why not take the Gray German Officers uniform featured in HD2 and HD2 SS, and make it into a British Free Corps uniform?
Did you actually watch the show or just glance at it?
HD2fan wrote: I have a great idea this time, a uniform mod.
I believe this is a "TERRIBLE IDEA!"...
HD2fan wrote: Now, I just have a slight modding question. The graphic files, texture files, which make the uniforms in HD2, are they one file for the top part and pants, or are they two separate files? Are the boots separate files?
You really can't tell?
Oh, I did watch it start to finish.

I think this is a great idea. I guess we will need to agree to disagree.

Uh, I would love to debate history with you, but to avoid derailing the thread, I feel that we should discuss the proposed mod only. Not if or not BFC members engaged British forces, or the realism of that occurring in HD.


As for the issue with the pants and shirt in the Uniform textures, I figured that they were one file image only. However, keep in mind, I have only modded a Beret before, not an actual uniform.

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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by -ViTaMiHnM203- » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:16 pm

HD2fan wrote: I feel that we should discuss the proposed mod only.
I am discussing the proposed mod. Your questions were:
HD2fan wrote: why not take the Gray German Officers uniform featured in HD2 and HD2 SS, and make it into a British Free Corps uniform?
Sure it was a question to yourself, but you made it public and obviously wanted to share it.
HD2fan wrote: Good idea? Thoughts?
I answered and gave my thoughts.
HD2fan wrote: Uh, I would love to debate history with you, but to avoid derailing the thread,
What is there to debate? If I am incorrect I would love to know. You can always PM me... I think.
HD2fan wrote:
As for the issue with the pants and shirt in the Uniform textures, I figured that they were one file image only.
So you have seen the actual textures and are just asking if there might be another file that must be modified as well?
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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:56 pm

-ViTaMiHnM203- wrote:
HD2fan wrote: I feel that we should discuss the proposed mod only.
I am discussing the proposed mod. Your questions were:
HD2fan wrote: why not take the Gray German Officers uniform featured in HD2 and HD2 SS, and make it into a British Free Corps uniform?
Sure it was a question to yourself, but you made it public and obviously wanted to share it.
HD2fan wrote: Good idea? Thoughts?
I answered and gave my thoughts.
HD2fan wrote: Uh, I would love to debate history with you, but to avoid derailing the thread,
What is there to debate? If I am incorrect I would love to know. You can always PM me... I think.
HD2fan wrote:
As for the issue with the pants and shirt in the Uniform textures, I figured that they were one file image only.
So you have seen the actual textures and are just asking if there might be another file that must be modified as well?
Yes and no. I wanted to know if the Pants and Shirt were in the same texture Image file. I assume they are, but I can not know for sure, as I have not seen any Uniform textures, only a Beret texture I modded earlier.

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Unread post by -ViTaMiHnM203- » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:51 pm

Ah, so... why not reconnoiter the situation?
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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:45 am

-ViTaMiHnM203- wrote: Ah, so... why not reconnoiter the situation?
What for? All I want to do is make a mod, that is all.

Now, I have a bit of a slow computer, and I have a request. Could someone on here in the HD2 Modding Community, whom has all of the files extracted, send me a copy of the textures for this mod by attaching it to a post? It is the German Gray Officers Uniform.

With that file, and being told if it came from Maps or Maps U, I should be able to make the mod.

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Unread post by -ViTaMiHnM203- » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:40 am

Ha... ha... ha... :mrgreen:
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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by Jason » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:00 pm

HD2fan no one is really allowed to do what you have asked, why don't you just leave it unpacking over night or something? Surely you can have it unpacking while you are browsing the web?
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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:50 am

Jason wrote: HD2fan no one is really allowed to do what you have asked, why don't you just leave it unpacking over night or something? Surely you can have it unpacking while you are browsing the web?
You mean people can not attach HD2 raw files to posts?

Could it be by private message?

Like I said, I have a really slow computer, I know it is not good at unpacking HD2 files, I already tried it on this computer, so.

Private message is the only other thing I can think of. Is it permissible to send the file by PM, and is it even possible to attach a file to a PM?

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Unread post by betteryouthanme » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:37 am

Even a really slow computer could unpack .dta's...
I've done this with my lemon.

There was never an easier way:
http://www.the-golden-squadron.co.uk/do ... p?view.111

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Re: GREAT IDEA!

Unread post by HD2fan » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:55 pm

betteryouthanme wrote: Even a really slow computer could unpack .dta's...
I've done this with my lemon.

There was never an easier way:
http://www.the-golden-squadron.co.uk/do ... p?view.111
So, I unpack the Dtas, get my file, and then delete all of the others like I did before?

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Unread post by betteryouthanme » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:43 am

..., and then delete all of the others like I did before?
Why that? You just pick out the one's you like to change, then overwrite the origin images.
You could also create a new folder, put the Extractor and the Maps.dta, MapsU.dta, ... into it and extract it there, you don't have to extract .dta's in H&D 2 main directory.

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