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new weapons?
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:19 pm
by Haj01
ive heard and seen pictures of weapons that were taken out of the game. such as the flamethrower, silent colt mg42 that u can use standing up not fixed. and many more
ass anybody ever used these? and unlocked them some how? and does anybody know why they got removed?
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:02 pm
by Drozdov
Interview with some IS developer on this site:
Q. Before the release of H&D2, media such as screenshots and movies showed things that weren't in the released game. There is too much to list but some examples include screenshots taken of scenes that aren't in the game, one scene was a bride with a train on it, another a warehouse. Another example is a movie showing a player speed crawling on his hands and knees. Even some weapons such as the flamethrower were taken out. How much and why were these things taken out of the final product?
A: We re-worked few things in original H&D2, so some of the features were lost in order to put new ones in.
Basically, they changed H&D 2 radically quite late on in the development process, and a lot of stuff was lost. Think they made the right decision, flamethrowers and hip-fired MG42s aren't in keeping with the H&D spirit. Silent colt would have been nice, don't know why they removed that but I guess it was unnecessary with the De Lisle and silent Sten.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:14 pm
by Alexander
did a silent .45 caliber even excist at that time?
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:59 am
by Drozdov
Yeh, the De Lisle...
Don't know if there was a silenced Colt .45 pistol though.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:08 am
by -ViTaMiHnM203-
I dont think a silenced M1911 exists now even; atleast factory made...
The allies had more effective silenced pistols at the time...
What I dont think existed was the silenced P08...
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:19 am
by Jason
-ViTaMiHnM203- wrote:
I dont think a silenced M1911 exists now even; atleast factory made...
The allies had more effective silenced pistols at the time...
What I dont think existed was the silenced P08...
A lot of movies have a Silenced P08 such as the Deadly Dozen and Where Eagles Dare - movies aren't exactly fact-based but I doubt they make up such a weapon
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:54 am
by Lardassmonkey
Who had the silenced P08 in WED? Its one of my favourite films but I don't remember it.
I wish they'd kept the Mg34/42 in, not hip fireable obviously but the same as the current LMGs.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:53 am
by Oldih
What I dont think existed was the silenced P08...
Well Germans made a device that allowed you to fire behind corners, worked only with MP44 though.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:05 pm
by Drozdov
Heh, I remember someone posting a link to the 'bendy' MP44, don't believe it was actually used though. No idea about a silenced P08, but what I did find out from the internet is that any semi/automatic pistol can be fitted with a silencer in theory. So, while I didn't find anything to suggest the 1911 was ever officially made with a silencer, it's not impossible that a pistol would be modified with a silencer by an SAS man. Same thing with the P08.
They should have had the MG34 in H&D 2, I assume it was far more common than the ZB and more MG34s were produced than MG42s.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:39 pm
by -ViTaMiHnM203-
Im sure they would make up a weapon like that; countless movies do...
Post pics from the movie so I can see how they made it...
The Luger ingame is deffinatly fake; the way its set up, the threads would be on the inside of the barrel, which is not feesable...
The 1911 would not be easily modifiable; you would need a threaded barrel and a silencer to fit the barrel, not practically made by "an SAS man"...
There were more effectivly silent pistols that were used by the SAS sucjh as the Welrod...
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:56 pm
by Haj01
but somethink they had in H&d1 that ive seen videos for h&d2 u could roll left and right whilst crouching or lying down. but they took that out. i wonder wwhy.
also its not fair how the bots can shoot zb's and other heavy guns standing. and we cant. they should of made it that your stamina determines how long u shoot heavy guns standing. and when stamina runs out u can't shoot it stannding anymore till it goes back full. i hope they do something like that in the next game.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:24 pm
by Oldih
also its not fair how the bots can shoot zb's and other heavy guns standing.
I believe this is game engine problem\some AI code issue.
Usually they hit the dirt quite soon after they fire while crouching but not always.
Re: new weapons?
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:05 pm
by -ViTaMiHnM203-
I think Haj has to good ideas...